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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Gary.

Heidi mentioned me? Why is it that I&#039;m always linked but can never find it myself? Anyhow, been meaning to put the info up on my news update section of the site, but since you&#039;re asking...

First there&#039;s the Kaboom!Fractious Zine and Small Press Shindig, which is being held in Manhattan at the Ding Dong Lounge, near Columbia University. It&#039;s a one day only event, June 21, and table price is dirt cheap. For more info...

http://www.whfr.org/events/out-of-the-living-room-kaboomfractious-zine-and-small-press-shindig-2009-06-21/

Then the very next weekend, June 27 and 28, there&#039;s the NYC Zine Fest at the Brooklyn Lyceum. Unfortunately, myself and Katie can only attend the second of the two days, the Sunday. For more information, simply hit here...

http://www.nyczinefest.org/

... As of right now, there&#039;s still some tables available for Saturday, but sounds like they&#039;re about to run out. Prices seem pretty reasonable, not as dirt cheap at the other event, but still way more affordable than MoCCA&#039;s rates these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gary.</p>
<p>Heidi mentioned me? Why is it that I&#8217;m always linked but can never find it myself? Anyhow, been meaning to put the info up on my news update section of the site, but since you&#8217;re asking&#8230;</p>
<p>First there&#8217;s the Kaboom!Fractious Zine and Small Press Shindig, which is being held in Manhattan at the Ding Dong Lounge, near Columbia University. It&#8217;s a one day only event, June 21, and table price is dirt cheap. For more info&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whfr.org/events/out-of-the-living-room-kaboomfractious-zine-and-small-press-shindig-2009-06-21/" rel="nofollow">http://www.whfr.org/events/out-of-the-living-room-kaboomfractious-zine-and-small-press-shindig-2009-06-21/</a></p>
<p>Then the very next weekend, June 27 and 28, there&#8217;s the NYC Zine Fest at the Brooklyn Lyceum. Unfortunately, myself and Katie can only attend the second of the two days, the Sunday. For more information, simply hit here&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nyczinefest.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyczinefest.org/</a></p>
<p>&#8230; As of right now, there&#8217;s still some tables available for Saturday, but sounds like they&#8217;re about to run out. Prices seem pretty reasonable, not as dirt cheap at the other event, but still way more affordable than MoCCA&#8217;s rates these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Fields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt,
Got a link through The Beat about your MOCCA comments.  You mention the other zine shows and I was curious about where they will be.  I&#039;m local to NY also and I&#039;d love to see if I can attend.  I went to MOCCA and thought it was a good show and got some good stuff.  Thanks for your help!!
Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt,<br />
Got a link through The Beat about your MOCCA comments.  You mention the other zine shows and I was curious about where they will be.  I&#8217;m local to NY also and I&#8217;d love to see if I can attend.  I went to MOCCA and thought it was a good show and got some good stuff.  Thanks for your help!!<br />
Gary</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen Frakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen Frakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Sinbad mini is by Sam Gaskin!
http://samgascan.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Sinbad mini is by Sam Gaskin!<br />
<a href="http://samgascan.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://samgascan.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, definitely. Splitting tables only got to be an option the last few times I ventured out to a show. Before that it was mostly me footing the bill for some non-existent collective. The last few years I think both Dalton and Todd had better things going on. Me, I was indeed taking a step back, slowly plugging away and my grand unpublishable tome. Time away did recharge the batteries for getting out there again, but the time away has made the culture shock (and wallet shock) of a possible return all the harder. I feel like I&#039;m starting out new again (just old), but with the nostalgia of someone else.

The Pat+Cat pictures also seem new. Those are awesome. The cat has great eyes.

Definitely let me know what NYC shows I should look at (as long as I can plan vacation around them, not something cooked up the week before.) I&#039;m making a list like in days of old of all the shows and then going to see what I can afford for time and money pending the construction of some PTD volumes. Recently it&#039;s just been driving distance shoes for me, STAPLE in Austin is awesome and decently priced. ANTIGRAVITY MAGAZINE&#039;s Alternative Media Show in New Orleans is a great excuse for NOLA visit. The Maine show looks doable along with Stumptown. Those plus maybe either SPX or APE would make a self-funded nice book tour. Shall see I guess. Like I said, making the list...48 pages, editing, plus printing and bookmaking before that starts though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, definitely. Splitting tables only got to be an option the last few times I ventured out to a show. Before that it was mostly me footing the bill for some non-existent collective. The last few years I think both Dalton and Todd had better things going on. Me, I was indeed taking a step back, slowly plugging away and my grand unpublishable tome. Time away did recharge the batteries for getting out there again, but the time away has made the culture shock (and wallet shock) of a possible return all the harder. I feel like I&#8217;m starting out new again (just old), but with the nostalgia of someone else.</p>
<p>The Pat+Cat pictures also seem new. Those are awesome. The cat has great eyes.</p>
<p>Definitely let me know what NYC shows I should look at (as long as I can plan vacation around them, not something cooked up the week before.) I&#8217;m making a list like in days of old of all the shows and then going to see what I can afford for time and money pending the construction of some PTD volumes. Recently it&#8217;s just been driving distance shoes for me, STAPLE in Austin is awesome and decently priced. ANTIGRAVITY MAGAZINE&#8217;s Alternative Media Show in New Orleans is a great excuse for NOLA visit. The Maine show looks doable along with Stumptown. Those plus maybe either SPX or APE would make a self-funded nice book tour. Shall see I guess. Like I said, making the list&#8230;48 pages, editing, plus printing and bookmaking before that starts though.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Toby, good hearing from you. Apologizes for not being the best when it&#039;s come to keeping in contact. I&#039;ll try to fix that.

Anyhow, yeah, the price factor is indeed a major issue. It&#039;s always been, but after this MoCCA, more people are being open about it than usual. Perhaps because the show was so bad for everyone (I&#039;ve finally begun reading other people&#039;s reports, and whereas I used to be the only person to bitch after a show, this time it&#039;s different... even the normally super positive Dave Roman had a few choice words to say).

I actually just updated the post with a few points that I foolishly left out (in my defense, most of it was written during the late night), such as how that $400 is being split between four people, which helps A LOT, as well as how the high cost of entry might keep things &quot;stagnant&quot; for some time now, since it&#039;s quite intimidating for new folks to get involved, or at least I would have to assume. 

As for these other zine shows, I&#039;ll definitely let you know how they turn out. I guess another appealing aspect is how I really have zero idea what they&#039;re about, and therefore have zero expectations. Oh, and the ultra low cost of entry helps tons as well. Guess it really is all about money at the end of the day.

Like so many people, I try not to think about how much money is being lost while doing stuff as a cartoonist. But there&#039;s a point where one really has to sit back and evaluate what you&#039;re doing, especially if it&#039;s not towards a serious cartooning career, such as myself. Though taking some time off by stepping away might also be a good thing for those of us that are just a tad bit burnt out by the scene in general. Basically, I have no idea what I&#039;ll be doing after next year&#039;s MoCCA.

At the end of the day, I just don&#039;t want to be that 50 year old pushing that same mini for the past ten years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Toby, good hearing from you. Apologizes for not being the best when it&#8217;s come to keeping in contact. I&#8217;ll try to fix that.</p>
<p>Anyhow, yeah, the price factor is indeed a major issue. It&#8217;s always been, but after this MoCCA, more people are being open about it than usual. Perhaps because the show was so bad for everyone (I&#8217;ve finally begun reading other people&#8217;s reports, and whereas I used to be the only person to bitch after a show, this time it&#8217;s different&#8230; even the normally super positive Dave Roman had a few choice words to say).</p>
<p>I actually just updated the post with a few points that I foolishly left out (in my defense, most of it was written during the late night), such as how that $400 is being split between four people, which helps A LOT, as well as how the high cost of entry might keep things &#8220;stagnant&#8221; for some time now, since it&#8217;s quite intimidating for new folks to get involved, or at least I would have to assume. </p>
<p>As for these other zine shows, I&#8217;ll definitely let you know how they turn out. I guess another appealing aspect is how I really have zero idea what they&#8217;re about, and therefore have zero expectations. Oh, and the ultra low cost of entry helps tons as well. Guess it really is all about money at the end of the day.</p>
<p>Like so many people, I try not to think about how much money is being lost while doing stuff as a cartoonist. But there&#8217;s a point where one really has to sit back and evaluate what you&#8217;re doing, especially if it&#8217;s not towards a serious cartooning career, such as myself. Though taking some time off by stepping away might also be a good thing for those of us that are just a tad bit burnt out by the scene in general. Basically, I have no idea what I&#8217;ll be doing after next year&#8217;s MoCCA.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, I just don&#8217;t want to be that 50 year old pushing that same mini for the past ten years.</p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt, wish I coulda come to visit. Sounds like selling comics in a big oven. That price is going to keep me away from MoCCA for good I think. :( You mentioned other zine type shows coming up. Any recommended shows where my weird ass stuff would fit in that I could use as an excuse to visit NYC? I hope the Maine thing happens again, I want to visit that one...should have gone this year, but didn&#039;t have anything done yet. Stumptown 2010 too after my book is done. Maybe APE. I miss SF. My giant self-publishing ego has finally been priced out I think. I only like the $45-95 table shows now. No reason to be both depressed AND completely broke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt, wish I coulda come to visit. Sounds like selling comics in a big oven. That price is going to keep me away from MoCCA for good I think. <img src='https://fort90.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  You mentioned other zine type shows coming up. Any recommended shows where my weird ass stuff would fit in that I could use as an excuse to visit NYC? I hope the Maine thing happens again, I want to visit that one&#8230;should have gone this year, but didn&#8217;t have anything done yet. Stumptown 2010 too after my book is done. Maybe APE. I miss SF. My giant self-publishing ego has finally been priced out I think. I only like the $45-95 table shows now. No reason to be both depressed AND completely broke.</p>
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